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did obama choose to go first? that was a mistake. >> bill: they flipped a coin as lehrer explained. >> i was drifting off there while you were talking. >> bill: they did actually flip a coin. that wasn't a joke. >> romney brought the mma. >> the mma being. >> the mixed martial arts. the steel caged death match and obama brought the lpga and unfortunately we could have had to throw it it admah nil la. >> ladies professional golf association. >> could have had a great fight. >> bill: steel match when obama could have crushed the larynx he didn't and he pulled back. >> to his credit. >> to his credit? >> there are two more debates. >> bill: yeah, so? >> so. >> bill: mitt has got to be consistent. >> if i have that advantage with stewart i may go in. >> it was his an investor sear, bill. >> i need advice from you guys. how pathetic is this asking gutfeld for advice on the big rumble on saturday night. we'll have that in a moment and the factor will be back right after these announcements. >> bill: back of the book seg
did obama choose to go first? that was a mistake. >> bill: they flipped a coin as lehrer explained. >> i was drifting off there while you were talking. >> bill: they did actually flip a coin. that wasn't a joke. >> romney brought the mma. >> the mma being. >> the mixed martial arts. the steel caged death match and obama brought the lpga and unfortunately we could have had to throw it it admah nil la. >> ladies professional golf association. >>...
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obama leading romney 78 to 17% in nevada. and in florida, obama leads romney 61 to 31%. romney has had a problem connecting with hispanics for months, and in just the past few days, began a new push to try to win them over. joining me now is steven nuno. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> these numbers look horrible for mitt romney. you know, comments that his dad was mexican, he'd be doing better. is there hope for him in the latino voting community? >> no. but the reason he needs to switch his position on immigration is he needs to convince more moderate voters. you know, romney 2.0 is about connecting with moderate voters, and that's the majority of americans who believe there should be a pathway to citizenship and a humane approach to immigration. >> he says he wouldn't row evacuate president obama's plan that's been granting temporary visas for young, undocumented workers. is that progress enough? >> not really. there's two words that latinos should pay attention to when they're talking to mitt romney. that is kris kobach. and kris kobach is the a
obama leading romney 78 to 17% in nevada. and in florida, obama leads romney 61 to 31%. romney has had a problem connecting with hispanics for months, and in just the past few days, began a new push to try to win them over. joining me now is steven nuno. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> these numbers look horrible for mitt romney. you know, comments that his dad was mexican, he'd be doing better. is there hope for him in the latino voting community? >> no....
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president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van
president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next...
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obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will be this. it will be in a town hall. he has got more ability to connect with an audience than romney. he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you look at the actual numbers. if you look at those with new jobs, about 114,000. you have to have 150,000 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leaving the work force, retiring, or read a wait a minute, nina -- or when you become chronically unemployed, over the one year
obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will...
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obama he did too. a year after it passed a percentage of americans who believe the stimulus created jobs was lower than the percentage of americans who believe elvis was alive. at one point i told the story how obama told his cabinet that the stimulus was the only thing less popular than he was. when you put the words change and obama this close together you are going to get yelled at. the new -- "the new new deal," right wingers the text of the old new deal and left wingers don't think this spineless sellout of a president is fit to share a book jacket with the new deal. i had a feeling some readers wouldn't get past the first four words. and i was right. a few weeks ago i got a google alert that "the new new deal" was in the new republic. i had written a lot for that magazine. i have a lot of friends there. i clicked on the link and it is the blog coast by a 23-year-old researcher who announced right away he couldn't even make it to the first page. she couldn't get past the first four words. but not
obama he did too. a year after it passed a percentage of americans who believe the stimulus created jobs was lower than the percentage of americans who believe elvis was alive. at one point i told the story how obama told his cabinet that the stimulus was the only thing less popular than he was. when you put the words change and obama this close together you are going to get yelled at. the new -- "the new new deal," right wingers the text of the old new deal and left wingers don't...
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maybe obama saw this because the significance of the last 3 1/2 years in the obama presidency is there was never cooperation or rarely cooperation. no or very few bipartisan agreements. the only time they did something was when they brought joe biden in to negotiate with the republicans. so maybe obama sensed that. but i don't know -- it's worthy to investigate. >> sean: yeah. one theory i have, i want to ask you one more question about your theory. i would argue, $6 trilon in debt, very hard to explain away. i would argue that, you know when 2012 economically is worse than 2011, which was worse than 2010, unemployment in 2012, fewer jobs in this year than last year and the year before. things are trending down. obviously, that's troubling for the president in terms of trying to defend it. but back to your theory, if he was so bad that there something else going on, that could be troubling in and of itself. you know, we need presidents that are strong. you know, bill clinton, as critical as i was during monica lewinsky, you have to hand it to him, his ability to compartmentalize, do hi
maybe obama saw this because the significance of the last 3 1/2 years in the obama presidency is there was never cooperation or rarely cooperation. no or very few bipartisan agreements. the only time they did something was when they brought joe biden in to negotiate with the republicans. so maybe obama sensed that. but i don't know -- it's worthy to investigate. >> sean: yeah. one theory i have, i want to ask you one more question about your theory. i would argue, $6 trilon in debt, very...
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>> why didn't obama say that? >> why didn't obama say that? yeah, we have established he could have had a better debate, if he had been more, what, up on the sound bites, if you will. and also if he didn't stirt like i do, but the fact is that romney was giving the impression all this money was going to solyndra. it is not. even solyndra isn't that bad but that's a question for another time. >> this country is on the way to energy independence because of fracking, because of the new technologies that enable us to get both natural gas and oil out of shale that we never were able to do before. that is going to change the whole economy of this country and dramatically reduce our dependency on the middle east. it's long overdue. >> wind and solar is like 1% of that 90 billion that romney cited. there was also money there, 3 billion to clean up a nuclear plant. so again, he played with the figures. but the romney that showed up the other night was not the romney we saw on the campaign trail earlier. he suddenly is now
>> why didn't obama say that? >> why didn't obama say that? yeah, we have established he could have had a better debate, if he had been more, what, up on the sound bites, if you will. and also if he didn't stirt like i do, but the fact is that romney was giving the impression all this money was going to solyndra. it is not. even solyndra isn't that bad but that's a question for another time. >> this country is on the way to energy independence because of fracking, because of...
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obama never believed it's transient and the obama revolution that is here to stay. and so he -- you will never catch him saying the era of big government is over. because he believes that the era of big government is not over. he believe -- pursuing obamacare which looked at many points like a will of the wisp, was not that he couldn't figure out that he needed a more on the economy if he was going to get reelected. he was willing to risk re-election for the sake of doing something perm known expand to the state, to realize more of the liberalism's goals. and so he is to that extend he is what the marxist call heightening the contradiction. he is in a certain way beg for the crisis. that's because he will be a way to daily comprise in the second term, if there is one, but i think the game he's playing is more ideological than that. and i think he would not reject the chance to put conservatively to have a real fiscal crisis in which in order fund the present promises and some of the future promises made in the welfare state or we must fundamentally trim the welfare
obama never believed it's transient and the obama revolution that is here to stay. and so he -- you will never catch him saying the era of big government is over. because he believes that the era of big government is not over. he believe -- pursuing obamacare which looked at many points like a will of the wisp, was not that he couldn't figure out that he needed a more on the economy if he was going to get reelected. he was willing to risk re-election for the sake of doing something perm known...
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obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say i can't go back to work, i'm going to stay home and drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> the president clearly sees today's numbers good news for his campaign, but eric you've been digging into the numbers. can you help us dig a little deeper.
obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop...
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president obama gets in unemployment blues. unemployment blues. the a-team is here to jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. lou: monday after fbi fbi agents inspected the conflict in been talking, they are deciding whether to take action
president obama gets in unemployment blues. unemployment blues. the a-team is here to jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [...
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we thought obama had a teleprompter. obama just wasn't himself. i think he was himself. he didn't have a teleprompter and mitt romney was himself. this is the exact mitt romney that the media have not wanted us to see. >> where has he been up until now? >> buried in internet. the realization that the headline is the staying power of 47%. why is 47% staying because the media are putting it on every day. >> when president obama didn't mention that. he didn'ting on the five trillion dollar attack. he did nothing to come back at him. i have watched all these debates since clinton's first debate, i was in shock. >> loan why he didn't bring it up, it wasn't on the teleprompt. >> i agree what ellen was saying people said look after four years of press coverage he is not ready for tough questions or tough opportunity. >> it was just an attitude by obama of aloof disdain. it was supposed to be a strategy of not overly aggression but it felt terrible. >> jon: ellen had her theory about why the president came off why he did. on msnbc, michael dison claimed in his opinion that the p
we thought obama had a teleprompter. obama just wasn't himself. i think he was himself. he didn't have a teleprompter and mitt romney was himself. this is the exact mitt romney that the media have not wanted us to see. >> where has he been up until now? >> buried in internet. the realization that the headline is the staying power of 47%. why is 47% staying because the media are putting it on every day. >> when president obama didn't mention that. he didn'ting on the five...
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the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on the campaign. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actually back now to where we were when obama got in office. but do you think bill clinton is right there? did obama do all that couldave been done? >> well, i think he did all that could have been done that the congress would let him do. with hind sight, the stimulus package should have been bigger, but at the time it was put together, there were two things that were constraining it. one was we didn't know how bad the economy was at that moment. it was still getting worse. but nobody knew how much worse it was getting. and the other was sort of sticker shock. it was a big number and the congress wasn't prepared to
the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on the campaign. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actually...
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president obama gets in unemployment blues. unemployment blues. the a-team is here to [beep] [indistinct chatter] [kids talking at once] [speaking foreign language] [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [faint singing] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me ♪ ♪ i was a lonely soul, but that's the old me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. hi hi ♪(whistling tune) ♪("don't worry be happy") lou: monday after fbi fbi agents inspected the conflict in been talking, they are deciding whether to take action against those killing the americans and the ambassador. that is what is being reported by my next guest. eli lake. he has brought countless stories on the attack in benghazi. first come i would like to commend you and your reporting on this story. go to your most recent, which is the administration. has not decided how to proceed on how to handle these that led
president obama gets in unemployment blues. unemployment blues. the a-team is here to [beep] [indistinct chatter] [kids talking at once] [speaking foreign language] [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [faint singing] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me ♪ ♪ i was a lonely soul, but that's the old me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of...
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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down...
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when you went head-to-head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then senator obama had no record to defend, and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because mitt was -- i think very legitimately, attacking his record, whether it be the $90 billion in subsidies for energy or a number of the other things that he pointed -- the failure of dodd-frank, and so the president had a record to defend this time, but one, do not underestimate the president of the united states. he will come back strong. i think mitt has to be prepared for that. and also, as you mentioned, these job numbers will give him a bit or something of a bot today. >> we've got the vp debate comin
when you went head-to-head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then senator obama had no record...
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and an outside adviser to president obama. also with us tonight is democratic strategist bob shrum two of the best here to talk about the economy and political ramifications of all of this. mr. wolf good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks for having me, ed. >> you were right there on the ground floor when president obama was dealing with this economic crisis. take us where we were and where we are and encapsulate it for our audience. >> we know where we were. the stock market was a hundred percent lower right at 6,000. we're at a five-year high. and we were losing 750,000 jobs when he entered office. i'd rather talk about where we are today because i think today's numbers are a culmination of policies that have led to a recovery that we need to continue but we are starting to see the culmination of these policies actually lead to very good things. let's talk about it. people aren't discussing the average hour work week. it came in at 34 1/2, which is a prerecession number. mortgage foreclosures are at a four-year low. hous
and an outside adviser to president obama. also with us tonight is democratic strategist bob shrum two of the best here to talk about the economy and political ramifications of all of this. mr. wolf good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks for having me, ed. >> you were right there on the ground floor when president obama was dealing with this economic crisis. take us where we were and where we are and encapsulate it for our audience. >> we know where we were. the stock...
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not quoting any then claim and i'm not quoting obama or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we've got to
not quoting any then claim and i'm not quoting obama or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so...
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you know, mitt romney during the debate criticized president obama when president obama criticized how much money is given to the oil industry. many people were upset that the president then fired back and said hey, listen, we're starting something with green energy. if you're trying to get a whole new energy sector off the ground, don't you need federal dollars behind it at least at first? >> there are a lot more official ways of doing it than giving money to your friends and having those companies go bankrupt. the reason why it's such a sore point with the administration is they've had a lot of very high profile disasters, solyndra, fisker, and the rest. i think the president, rather than saying yes, we have to subsidize my friends, would do better to say that i think his line is that he is in favor of an all of the above sort of energy policy. but it's really not the case that we're doing better. we had a higher growth rate in 2010. the reason why that rate is going down is because people are giving up and dropping out of the jobs -- the job market. so i think that the essential arg
you know, mitt romney during the debate criticized president obama when president obama criticized how much money is given to the oil industry. many people were upset that the president then fired back and said hey, listen, we're starting something with green energy. if you're trying to get a whole new energy sector off the ground, don't you need federal dollars behind it at least at first? >> there are a lot more official ways of doing it than giving money to your friends and having...
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president obama gets in unemployment blues. nearly 1 billion people around the world don't have enough food to survive. we can't let this happen. there is something we can do about it. please join christina aguilera and yum! brands in the movement to fight world hunger by supporting the united nations world food programme. for more information, go to fromhungertohope.com. your contribution will feed children and save lives. together, we can stop the dying and start the living. and together, we can move people from hunger to hope. but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. lou: monday after fb
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obama claims. his program for trade and energy development, i think he was spot on in the debates in that regard, and that could create somewhere between 5 million to 10 million jobs pretty easily, and so i think that if we got the romney plan on energy and trade and got the obama plan on social insurance, americans would be very, very happy. unfortunately, they are only going to get one of these guys, and so they are only going to get half a loaf. >> nice to see you all. have a great weekend, everybody. >> thanks. >> up next, a career reboot. >> i was happy that i received the offer, happy i got to interview and happy i waited and took out all the risk. >> that's right. the going back to school gamble and how it's paying off for some job seekers. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you've been years in the making. and there are many years ahead. join the millions of members who've chon an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long. for their "destination
obama claims. his program for trade and energy development, i think he was spot on in the debates in that regard, and that could create somewhere between 5 million to 10 million jobs pretty easily, and so i think that if we got the romney plan on energy and trade and got the obama plan on social insurance, americans would be very, very happy. unfortunately, they are only going to get one of these guys, and so they are only going to get half a loaf. >> nice to see you all. have a great...
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i mean biden obama as a team at this point. but i think that the president, is just going to forget the first debate and be ready in the second one to make his case. and to engage. he wasn't ingauged. if you turn down the sound on wednesday night and just watch those two people, he is did not look happy to be there. and mitt romney did. >> what about the vice president, are the expectations now raised, as mark says. >> i think so. >> in part there is a little more pressure on joe biden because as mark said he has to do well. and hyperactive joe biden is a high risk proposition. it could turn out well and i happen to think he's pretty good debater. de well, i thought against sarah palin. de well when he ran for president. he's an eloquent guy who in the big debates has always been a very controlled figure. but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly has that cap
i mean biden obama as a team at this point. but i think that the president, is just going to forget the first debate and be ready in the second one to make his case. and to engage. he wasn't ingauged. if you turn down the sound on wednesday night and just watch those two people, he is did not look happy to be there. and mitt romney did. >> what about the vice president, are the expectations now raised, as mark says. >> i think so. >> in part there is a little more pressure on...
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it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard, people don't want to spend more money and they'd want to spend less and what the president has going for him is total employment has gone up by 3 million, since this time a year ago and the unemployment rate went from 9% to 7.8... >> gregg: you are still 4.5 million jobs behind, right? >> in the past year we have gained 3 million jobs and since the depth o-the recession, gained 5 million. >> gregg: but you are not where you wanted to be, normally in a recovery, you should be up about 4.5 -- >> remember, though, like ronald reagan, in his re-election effort, the un
it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard,...
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whether it's romney or obama let me do it my way. if i were obama what would i do? first of all let me show you. i'd come out with a 2 x 4. no no, say that line about the 5 trillion-dollar again. go ahead say it. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut. that's not my man. my plan is not to put in any tax cut that will effect the deficit. i will bring down the deductions and taxes at the same time so the revenue stays in. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, that sounds good. you're going to do a 20% tax cut across the board. then a 2 trillion-dollar increase in the defense budget. then you're going to keep most of the popular deductions. and then you're going to balance the budget. and then you're going to give everybody a free unicorn! that's not how it works mitt! you're lying! there is no 5 trillion-dollar in deductions that you take away from just the rich. that's preposterous. and i'm not going to let you get away with it. one wonders how long i will keep this 2 x 4 that is actually not a 2 x 4 on my shoulder, but we move forward. he says, well, before i go
whether it's romney or obama let me do it my way. if i were obama what would i do? first of all let me show you. i'd come out with a 2 x 4. no no, say that line about the 5 trillion-dollar again. go ahead say it. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut. that's not my man. my plan is not to put in any tax cut that will effect the deficit. i will bring down the deductions and taxes at the same time so the revenue stays in. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, that sounds good....
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and what would you propose alternatives, and better than president obama does? >> he did both of those, went right at the obama record and something the president declined to talk about himself and went deep on his tax policy and his health policy, so he put some entirely new baseline for the election. >> paul: kim, there are a lot of republicans were willing to start writing off mitt romney if he didn't do welcome. i mean, there really were. and they were worried that his fund raising might fall off and there would be a big problem. so, is there new momentum, new optimism on the republican side? >> no worries about the fund raising dropping off now, i tell you that. i mean, you have not seen this much enthusiasm for mitt romney since he's ever run, going back to 2008. but i think because he went out there and talked about ideas, this is what the republicans have been arguing he needed to do all along because you can't say it's a choice you've got to prove it's a choice. that's what he did in denver. the most important thing he did, he explained the choices very
and what would you propose alternatives, and better than president obama does? >> he did both of those, went right at the obama record and something the president declined to talk about himself and went deep on his tax policy and his health policy, so he put some entirely new baseline for the election. >> paul: kim, there are a lot of republicans were willing to start writing off mitt romney if he didn't do welcome. i mean, there really were. and they were worried that his fund...
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mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha mitt, slapping obama around. and, anyone else who got in mitt away. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i will stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow from china to pay for it. >> stephen: he just told the moderator who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man! you-- (cheers and applause) you, not only you-- but all those freeloading muppets. that takes not just one ball, but two, two enormous balls! (applause) but, folks, as much
mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha...
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the word for obama was jobs. the word for romney was medicare, and the roared for jim lehrer was -- [mum mumbling] >> greta: that's your lt
the word for obama was jobs. the word for romney was medicare, and the roared for jim lehrer was -- [mum mumbling] >> greta: that's your lt
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what should obama get with 7.8? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody's poo-poo'ing it. oh, geez, i know why jack welch is scared that number is too damn close to reagan's number. that's probably what he's worried about. >> how this works with the president's narrative, we're moving in the right direction, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that i think he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that says the economy is monthing in the right direction. i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. much more than levels variables, like the level of the unemployment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> thank you jared bernstein for coming on. >> thank you. >>> who is that masked moderate man on the debate stage, the guy who plans no $5 trillion tax cuts? who won't cut education, insists his health care plan covers people with pre-existing conditions. it's the same guy wh
what should obama get with 7.8? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody's poo-poo'ing it. oh, geez, i know why jack welch is scared that number is too damn close to reagan's number. that's probably what he's worried about. >> how this works with the president's narrative, we're moving in the right direction, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that i think he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a...